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Public Meeting Set to Unveil Plans for Allen Park

Years in the making, Oyster Bay plan still faces opposition from some in Farmingdale community.

The future expansion and redevelopment of is about to become a central issue facing the Farmingdale community.

Oyster Bay Town Supervisor announced a community meeting on the subject for Thursday, May 17, at 7 p.m.

Venditto said local community groups have weighed in on the preliminary plan and the town is "ready to unveil a preliminary plan and timeline for the redevelopment of the park.”

However, public input is a point of contention with several community leaders, who say the town has not considered their needs in the development of the plan.

For decades, Chuck Gosline has been advocating for a YMCA-like community center at the park, ideally on the portion of the property that once held the Liberty plant. After Liberty closed up, it left behind a toxic waste plume that became a federal Superfund site. The clean-up is in the final phases, town officials said.

In an email to community members, Gosline criticized the town for what he described as dragging their feet on a decision involving the site. Gosline said the town has discarded his proposal and he expects the proposal to include a new  community center and playing fields. 

In conversations with town officials, Gosline said the new center would be dividable into up to 6 different meeting rooms. It would have no basement, pool or skate park because of water table concerns.

There is also a lingering issue with a pool for . Some community proposed building a new, state of the art community pool that students could use for meets. But the town said such a facility would cost up to $25 million to build, town officials and Gosline said.

Instead, the town and Farmingdale's school board appear to have agreed on a plan to renovate the high school's pool. Gosline objects to that proposal.

Meanwhile, the town said no final decisions have been made.

"With the input of many local community groups, the town is ready to unveil a preliminary plan and timeline for the redevelopment of the park,” Venditto said.

The meeting will include a PowerPoint presentation on the proposal and a question and comment period. It will be held Thursday, May 17, at 7 p.m. at

“It has been a long time in coming, but when you see the finished park, I am confident you will agree that it has been worth the effort," Venditto said.

Rosemary Gruttadauria May 05, 2012 at 04:58 PM
community-like center. Pool. Skate ring. No more fields!!!
Craig May 05, 2012 at 05:47 PM
A outdoor pool facility with a diving 1 meter and 3 meter board , 6 lanes for competitive age group swimming, a water slide and toddler area too. A concrete skateboard park developed by california skate parks inc or another reputable company and more fields. You could have skate board camps, swimming camps and diving camps for all ages. Btw concrete skateboard parks will not be noisy, not like the one that was installed years ago that was above ground and made out of metal. Thats what I would do if I was in charge !! Keep kids off the streets and in the park !!!
Rosemarie Stauber May 05, 2012 at 09:08 PM
I have serious concerns that the TOB has already made up their mind as to the plan for this expanded area that Fdale has waited so long for. IMHO, a preliminary plan still has availability for adjustment, and suggestions for adjustments to this plan should be part of this meeting - and, if this is not what will happen at this meeting - then this meeting will not be purposeful - this community has ideas that should be looked at. In addition, I, and many others, want to hear what the YMCA has to say and what their plan for this property could be. I am not so sure about having a in ground pool at this location and I have voiced this concern within this forum. I am pleased that the town in interested in contributing financially to the Fdale HS school - hopefully, using town money, the local people will have access to this pool, year round - and more than the one day a week (Thursdays) that is available now - and only during limited weeks within the school year only. Hopefully, local people will turn out for this meeting on Thursday, 5/17, at Howitt Middle School at 7PM.
Jeffrey Lee May 05, 2012 at 11:37 PM
Explain to me why the TOB would want to give money to FPS for renovations of their pool so that it could be used only part of the time. If the town looked into all possible funding for Allen Park then there would be no time constraints. I can not imagine a the pool being open to the town during school hours or summer school hours? Does anyone know any specifics the deal being considered between the TOB and FPS ?
Constance Allison May 06, 2012 at 12:37 AM
I don't think it's looking good for what Farmingdale wants.
Merrick7 May 06, 2012 at 01:09 PM
I am a TOH resident, so I apologize for lacking empathy with this issue, but a pool on that site would be a mistake. Throughout the country superfund sites that have been officially cleared after remediation by municipalities and the EPA often report cases down the road (well-documented in the news) of high radiation levels in water used from those fixed up sites. An indoor or outdoor pool built on this site is a mistake. There are chemicals and pollution there that may not have been cleaned or found and if a pool is built and used your children will be at high risk. The Town knows this and knows of the lawsuits municipalities have suffered from these kinds of events and that is likely why they decided against the pool; not the actual 25 million dollar cost of building a new one.
Helen May 06, 2012 at 02:55 PM
I have to agree that a pool does indeed leave us vulnerable to future health hazards. I don't trust what anyone says that the ground is safe - just look at the worst example we know of recently, the grounds at the World Trade Center. All those mighty beings told us that the air was safe and yet, our heroes are dying from illnesses borne there. Do we want to be in the news down the road as the next causality of the EPA? Yes, a pool would be a great asset in so many ways, but not there. It's a Pandora's box. There is so much more this town needs than a pool. We've gone back and forth on this in this forum and have produced some very interesting and legitimate ideas. With that being said, I too, am afraid that we will all be given lip service and blown off by our wonderful leaders.....
Jeffrey Lee May 06, 2012 at 06:22 PM
I do not think the pollutants at this superfund site were radiated although I agree that the possibility of cancer causing contamination must be looked into before this is built. TOH really ask this question why did it take so long to "clean up" this site when it was known to the "public" since the early 80's? And what is being done to speedily adress the plume at the Grumman site Bethpage ?
Jeffrey Lee May 06, 2012 at 06:26 PM
Pool or no public pool? Point is the TOB should not be renovating Farmingdale Public Schools Pool. This is yet another political game. Close it down and let the school budget the repairs and do fund raisers.
Cosmo May 07, 2012 at 12:46 PM
I agree why should the town give money for the pool at the HS?
Tom May 07, 2012 at 02:21 PM
I also agree. Why should the town spend money on the high school?
Tom May 07, 2012 at 02:23 PM
Agree. Will the pool be available to TOB residents during school hours? Or are my tax dollars being used to make improvements for Farmingdale high school students?
Jeffrey Lee May 07, 2012 at 07:13 PM
The district supposedly will get first priority to scheduling. What additional security or public safety will be on school grounds when the "TOB Residents" use the pool? You think youths will just stay in the pool area?
rob May 08, 2012 at 01:51 AM
how about a pond w/ waterfall or fountian with a 1/2 mile or so walking path around it to encourage exercising after meals with a nice natural/park like feel , also a BIG comminuty building with small room for little groups and large room for plays and theater or boy/girl scouts and kids indoor rec for rainey days and get this a decent privately leased coffee shop-newspaper stand(or even a book store) w/seats in like a commoms area this would be great for seniors and locals alike ...we can call it the meet and greet - in the winter they can have indoor walking,streching,tiebo or what ever. teens can have dances on friday nite and even and arcade(I know but do you really want to keep them off the streets ?)beside it will give public safety something to do...but seriously why not a dog park put it on the side of the epa building.In my feeling what we dont need is more fields (where good all over the tob)and the leagues are corupt enuff) and we dont need 5 duputies to run it....just a thought....see u at the meeting
rob May 10, 2012 at 10:33 AM
Got the dirt....... 7 new fields are coming and parking new cumm. center. no pool REAL GLAD WE HAD A SAY THANKS FOR DECIDING FOR US ....JUST WHAT WE NEED 7 MORE TURF/REG FIELDS THANKS JOHN....
Merrick7 May 10, 2012 at 05:10 PM
I think the answer to your question would be rather obvious. The military companies everyone treasured like Grumman, that everyone's parents worked for growing up or knew someone who did, polluted this island like crazy. To avoid trouble they had every politician on all level of government in their back pocket. EPA laws put into effect that helped discover this site and many others like in Bethpage, require the company to pay the bill however if they do not pay it or the government does not get them to pay it. The government cleans it up for the company at taxpayer cost. If the EPA did not exist you or I or many others could file class action lawsuits forcing these companies to pay and have it cleaned up immediately. But people only see what they want to see. The EPA saved them.
Thomas Joseph Jr May 17, 2012 at 11:49 AM
I want to weigh in on this. I am a parent of 3 kids playing sports in Farmingdale. The issue is there are not enough fields. If you consider all the facts.
Thomas Joseph Jr May 17, 2012 at 11:52 AM
In the fall, football & soccer compete for use of the fields at Allen Park. Allen Park is used because it is one of the few parks in the area that can be used that has lights. In the spring, it is soccer and lacrosse competing for time. As for the baseball/softball fields, you have organizations like Farmingdale Baseball, Over the Hill and others who try to squeeze games in. Again, these are the only fields having lights. Having the additional fields will give everyone more opportunities. Also, Allen Park is a town park, not a Farmingdale park. Any organization in the Town of Oyster Bay can apply for a permit to use the park. So organizations from Plainedge, Hicksville, Plainview, Syosset, Jericho, Bethpage, etc. can all apply for use of the park. I have already heard some from outside organizations that Farmingdale has been keeping the park to themselves and are trying to get in. Without expanding, their could be a time where a Farmingdale group has no place to play. As for the pool...look what happened in Bethpage. The pool & park was closed because of issues with Grumman that was closed for years. I would not want to see the same thing happen here 5-10 years down the road. Chemicals that were so far underground or were in neighboring areas seeped back into the site. It is safer not to have a pool. Lastly as for a community center, I am for it if it does happen. Therr is not any type of facility in the area and it could give some people a place to go and play indoors.
rob May 17, 2012 at 09:02 PM
so we should rename it allen sports complex? A park to me is more than just sports ! As you mentioned farmingdale can also use other fields which they built alot and not far away but as the newer genarations seem to think they should never have to wait its call entitlement ....my tax dollars put lights at the h.s. too
Kathy May 17, 2012 at 09:40 PM
Kathy I am a swim coach and my children are active in other sports, this town has enough fields, we need a community pool. There are a lot of teams that have no where to swim and the high school pool needs a lot of work.
Thomas Joseph Jr May 17, 2012 at 10:13 PM
Rob, no they cannot without light. In the fall, it get darker early so teams need a place with lights. Yes the high school has lights, and it was paid by tax dollars, but different tax dollars. And it opens up other issues with using school property.
Thomas Joseph Jr May 17, 2012 at 10:14 PM
Kathy, the cost of fixing the HS pool would be a lot more inexpensive than building a new pool. Plus the cost to keep it going. I am concerned the issues that plagued Bethpage will cause a pool at the site similar issues.
js October 19, 2013 at 12:14 PM
build a concert hall
Cosmo October 30, 2013 at 09:27 AM
Where is all of this money coming from?

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